June 21, 2021

Season 2 Ep.17 // Real Marriage, Real Family

Season 2 Ep.17 // Real Marriage, Real Family

In this episode. We asked our 3 kids, Ranon, Ehzra and Amarys to join us for a real conversation with their perspective on our marriage. It shows us that kids don't need to have perfect parents, but parents that are authentic, genuine, and willing to work to have a good marriage.

When we work to have a good relationship with each other. That healthy, whole relationship means we can be better people for our children.

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Transcript

Bryan:

Welcome to season two, episode 17 of the amplified marriage podcast. This is a father's day episode. We brought on our children to get their perspective on our marriage.

Natalie:

Welcometo another episode of amplified marriage. I'm Natalie

Bryan:

I'm Bryan,

Ehzra:

I'm Amarys, I'm RanonI'm Ezra and I enjoy knives, guitars, and Walks on the beach. Well, as you've heard it. Thousands of times before whatever you're doing, wherever you are, grab a coffee, grab a snack, get comfy and cozy. We're so excited to have a chat with you today,

Bryan:

as you can tell we have included our three children into the podcast today and it, because it's father's day and it's father's day, week, we're going to say it's father's day, week, every two weeks. We had a conversation. Yeah. Today actually during father's day. And we really want to just ask them some questions and some of it's gonna be raw. Some of it's going to be questions that I ask on the spot just about the things and who they are and the things that they do and who, and the things they love. So we want to start with Amaris. What is one thing that you, I just love doing

Ranon:

everywhere. I go, I make friends.

Bryan:

It's so true. We were at the skate park and just a little ways from an hour out of town. Amaris within 60 seconds, maybe two minutes had made a friend with the only girl her age and the whole place with people all around. And this is just kind of a thing that she does everywhere that she goes. And so this is a gift that she has. He's very much like me, that way, that there's someone there I can make friends with them. Yeah,

Natalie:

that's right. She'll talk to anybody. And that's one of the things I admire about her. Absolutely.

Bryan:

Because Natalie is not like that. Absolutely. And Rainin, he is my oldest.

Ranon:

I enjoy driving.

Bryan:

And he's only had his license for what?

Ranon:

10 days? 10, 10 days.

Bryan:

And he is crushing it, driving the car, taking her hybrid around and so far, there's no dents, no scratches. Although the first time he was driving, he just won't rent us into it.

Ranon:

Hey, we forgot about that day. We forget about that day that car's had a small either the second day of driving. I nailed it.

Bryan:

That's right. And then from then on, it was just an upward, upward momentum. So my other son, hello? Hello, his name is Ezra. And what is something that you love?

Ehzra:

Well, I'm stupid extroverted, so I like being outside. I actually say a lot how much the house is present and I'm stuck in here

Bryan:

and that's sometimes only if he's bitten inside for, he gets that from you. I think in my old age, I've learned to just chill Just be at home and not have to be out and about doing things. Right. And so as her hasn't quite mastered that yet. And so one of the, as it is father's day, one of the questions that we wanted to ask you guys, and maybe we'll just go around around the circle. But what is one thing why do you feel it's so important that you have a dad present.

Natalie:

Well, you're

Ranon:

talking to me, sorry.

Amarys:

I feel like it's important to have a dad present in my life because of how caring and he doesn't push you whenever you don't want to do. Like, we went to a water park a few or a few years ago and there's this one really scary slide, whole valley of fear. It's like this whole drop and it's like that was scary. And so I like was trying to go on it. I'm just like, I'm scared, but I kind of want to do it and I wasn't doing it and I'm going to do it. But then I took it out because I'm too scared and my dad just accepted it.

Ranon:

But it

Bryan:

didn't push you to do something dangerous. Isn't that the year that I hurt my back. Yeah. The neck on that one in that exact ride that you didn't want to do, I need to go to chiropractor for like a month. Yep. That was the,

Natalie:

I listened to her advice. I should have listened to Emory listening, listen to your kids.

Ranon:

Well, you didn't want to go. I went

Natalie:

anyway and been like, you know what? I think you're right. I shouldn't probably go either.

Ranon:

I went on that ride like five

Bryan:

times. I ended up going out a few times. Painful every time, but it was worth it. That's how I feel. And why do you feel it's important to have dead present?

Ranon:

Well you get to learn life, life experiences and life skills that you don't get from a mother. And so like shaving. Keeping his cool when I almost destroyed the car. But he's there for you because God put him there for you. And he's like there to help you with your life skills. And he, he kind of pushes you almost right to like tell you or help you and shape you to become the man that you should be instead of the man that you don't want to be awesome. That was

Bryan:

good. I really liked that. As, or why do you think it's so important to have a debt?

Ranon:

Will it because your father

Ehzra:

is your role model? So the daughters have the mums to look up to and the mums to copy and the mums to do whatever. But the, the sons, if the dad isn't around, then where are they going to look up to you? They're going to find the closest guy. They know they're going to find the closest dad. And they're going to start looking up to that guy and that guy's going to be almost responsive for the child. So having the. It's important to shape your future.

Bryan:

Right? I appreciate that.

Ranon:

That's really, that was really good. Wow. It's

Ehzra:

enough to make a grown man cry

Bryan:

obviously got one. Who's a bit of the funny bone in the family. So, and then I want to ask the same question to you guys. Why do you feel it's so important to have a mom present?

Amarys:

Avila is important to have a mom present in your life because when like ever you make a bad event Right. Like, like when you go through different times in your life there, you can just talk to your mom and there'll be, they're just not accept it. They'll be there for you. Even if you chose a bad decision to do something wrong, they'll always accept. Even if he didn't.

Bryan:

That's good. Brandon, why do you feel it's important to have a mom

Ranon:

present? Well, a mom has a certain type of. The gentleness that you do not

Bryan:

have, are you saying that I lack gentle,

Natalie:

there might be softening that character.

Ranon:

Did you talk back to me your personality type? Why do I sound like God of

Bryan:

war,

Ranon:

the personality type, it's very brunt and you're very truthful and right to the fact your mom, you know, takes your feelings into account and kind of tries to let you down easy or tries to like, let you know. And so having a mom means that she can teach you other things that maybe dad can't teach you like cleaning.

Bryan:

That's fair. So here's a question then. Just, do you feel that just because I am, and you're not wrong, like part of my personality is that I move things forward and oftentimes I don't think about feelings and stuff. That actually all three of you have really challenged me to act. And mom poking you mean like lip, bro? What you just did was wrong. Like there's been times where I thought I was right, but I was completely wrong. Do you feel that mom has been a really good buffer to say to Tim, to dad being like, Hey, you're being a bit rough. You need to go apologize. There'll be softer in this. Yeah,

Ranon:

I'd say that mom really does assist with that because you can visibly see that we are very frustrated with you. We sometimes do not voice our opinions as we should. So mom kind of pushes us

Bryan:

another question then just on the side of just being open with this is the reason that you don't open up to me sometimes is because I'm just so direct and you're just like, I know what he's going to say. It's not going to be what I need to hear in the moment. And so I'm going to go to mom.

Ranon:

Not always, sometimes it's just like, I really am not in a mood to talk to you because you're not in an understanding mood right now. You're in one money. You're like, I'm gonna keep going and I'm not going to stop type of moods. Okay. First

Ehzra:

of all, you're S what you're saying is you, you are a bit like credos.

Bryan:

That's fair. That's fair. I'm a

Ranon:

bit like.

Ehzra:

Yeah, I'm gonna take what he said, but he, he talks, he opens the mum more. I just feel like he's a bit more comfortable around. He's a bit more comfortable around mum. I don't know why, but like I opened it. I opened up to dad one because sometimes even though he is direct, that's what I need to hear is the honesty. And it's super

Bryan:

funny because when you guys were younger, he was the exact opposite. You just want it to, as soon as I opened up, you just like, literally would turn into a puddle and rain and always rose up and he's like, let's go to war dad, me and you right now. And he did. And he always stood up to me. So he still does. He still does. And I don't think that's bad really, but you also now handle my directness differently than you did when you were younger. And maybe it's partially because I've, I've sought some of the edge off. I like how we see maybe like, that's probably not what happened at all, but

Natalie:

thank you for bringing it up. I'm saying it's, it's a very likely possibility.

Bryan:

That's a possibility. Okay. So then Ezra, why do you feel it's so important to have a mom present in your life?

Ehzra:

Because a mother shapes that side of your personality is the father shapes the figure, the mother shapes the personality. Wow. So what, what that means is that when you start to date someone.

Natalie:

Oh Lord. Cause rain is the oldest.

Ranon:

I won't bring up the

Ehzra:

name, but

Bryan:

yeah,

Ranon:

the site, everyone find out here crushes, I'm teasing you.

Ehzra:

I don't like anyone. So you suck. But the mother shapes the personality and the father shapes the figure. So in that moment, when you start to date, My philosophy is this that you can't take someone on a proper date. So drive them to dinner and pay for dinner. Then you're not, then you're not actually dating the person. And so a lot of these younger people are like, oh, I'm dating. This is my girlfriend. And this is my boyfriend. And it's just it's like you liking someone and someone liking you. Right. But the mother is important to that because she, she tells, she shows you how. Treat a lady. Well, the properly, because a lot of these people, if you think about it, they don't, they treat a woman like an object because they weren't raised properly. Wow. So, you know, you need to treat, your mother will show you how to treat a lady properly because she will show you the expectation element once.

Natalie:

Wow. Wow.

Bryan:

I don't even know how to respond. Now. Podcast done drop the mic. You guys just brought nine deep into, into this. Well that.

Natalie:

I think that's insight from an 11, a 16 and a 14 year old. The importance of those figures in your life. I know today is father's day as we're recording this, but you're valuable men, right? We need strong men too, because you are that influence. Into the character of these children and whether or not you have children or you are a grandpa or you are an uncle you're influencing children around you, whether you, whether you realize it or not, and is so important for you to step into that and the confidence.

Bryan:

Right? Absolutely. And it, because like, I have the ability and we've been married for now 20 years. We just had our anniversary a couple of weeks ago, but I've been present in their life from beginning to end and I've made it my mission to be able to, to keep my promises, to teach them as much as I can do. I fall short all the time, a hundred percent. I make mistakes. I have to apologize because I'm a jerk sometimes. Like, and I, because I am a strong personality, oftentimes I see my way. That's the only way when it's really not the only way. It was just the way in the moment. Right.

Natalie:

I think being present of being physically present, but you can be very absent and still be physically present. Right. So I think making sure that moms and dads with your children are. Present in the moment, look like looking your children in the eyes. And I know with the hustle bustle of life, it can be really challenging to, to set whatever you're doing aside, right. To hear them out. But it's so

Bryan:

important. Well, and so we've talked about the individual too, with you guys to say the mom being present of the dad being president. So how you see us being healthy in our relationship now, do you. And maybe reign in, you actually can think back more than the other two can, because you're the oldest. Do you think you remember? I have

Ranon:

a couple of faint memories, but I do remember some moments where there is quite a few yelling matches at some points in, in like when I was in bed at night, I heard a lot of yelling sometimes, but. As I grew up in a year, I remember that yelling turned less and less and less. And obviously God turning dad and mom, obviously you always start with me bro. Courageous plus the green because you add,

Natalie:

oh geez. We didn't tell them to say that,

Bryan:

but that's, that's really good insight too, because as I, as I grew and matured and mum grew and matured, we, we definitely fought less because when you were born, it was, we are five years

Natalie:

married. Do you remember Rainin? When we had come? For a holiday and we were in the Walmart parking lot. And I can't remember if Amaris was born yet or not, but yeah, we were just in a foul mood and you started crying in the back and as he was in his car seat, and then as I started crying, cause you were crying and I remember like yelling in the car, I just want to get through this dumb Walmart. So put on a hat without fighting, put on a happy face we're on holidays, then just be done. And then we could hear you crying. Do you remember that as

Ranon:

really bad mood? Oh yeah,

Ehzra:

we were that's when you dead, like threw open the trunk and like the dog was back there that like through, but

Bryan:

no, this that's a different time.

Ranon:

Okay. So I

Ehzra:

remember I remembered

Ranon:

the other rage.

Natalie:

You were

Ranon:

little faint for me, but I do remember a couple of memories of parking lot yelling matches. Yeah.

Bryan:

And I remember as rose saying, I just want you guys to stop or sorry, ran in saying, I just want you guys to stop fighting. And we literally stopped in that moment. We prayed.

Natalie:

Well, we didn't pray. Right. Then I think we

Bryan:

prayed that. No, we prayed right then I remember we stopped. We prayed. And then we went into Walmart and the trip from that moment for change, because we also asked for forgiveness for just arguing, like, you mean you in

Ranon:

the Walmart? Yeah, well

Natalie:

not, I mean, we knew they were in the back, but we didn't really care that they were in the back. Right. I mean, there was part of something in my mind was like, well, they're never going to remember this anyways. Right. And then. His reaction to that to kind of snap us out of like, they are listening to everything that we are saying, right. And they're feeding off the energy that we're giving off. What are we doing? Right. This is, this is not how we can

Bryan:

operate. Right. So here's, here's the next question. We've been married now for 20 years. You've seen us at our best, seen us at our worst. Yep. Mainly dad, mainly

Ranon:

dad. I seen them in some pretty bad spots too.

Bryan:

Right. So what's something you see in our marriage that you would like to take to your own relationship, your own marriage, starting with

Ranon:

Amaris.

Amarys:

You guys, you guys caring, I want to shake your thing because you guys are always so hearing. Well, if you guys get in a bad, bad argument, you always trick

Bryan:

there's forgiveness. Yeah,

Natalie:

that's true. Yeah. But that is caring too. Dad's wellbeing and his feelings.

Bryan:

Right. Brandon. What's something that you see in our marriage that you want to take your own relationship?

Ranon:

Well, in your current marriage, like not the, before I like, I'm

Natalie:

like, ah, this is our only American I know, but

Ranon:

like the, after I think I like your, his love for each other. I think that the way you guys. I somehow stayed together for 20 years. Somehow, probably God. Yeah. Like I would love to love someone that genuine. And I want to have that in a relationship with someone when I do get to that point. No comments as her. Wow.

Bryan:

That's really good as her. What do you see that something in our marriage that you'd like to take to your own marriage?

Natalie:

I have three. Oh,

Bryan:

you always have just like overachiever. Okay, good.

Ehzra:

Why am I being hate? So I said this in the car, but your brutal honesty, because when you're in marriage, you need that. You need like, Hey, you need to stop this right now because I don't like what you're doing. And it it's like, this is really bad how you're handling this. Right. So the brutal honesty is very important for a marriage because if I ever have kids. I need that honesty to show them like how to had to like talk to people almost, you know what I mean? So the second one is your integrity. So the integrity is because he promise your wife that you, you want to like. Yeah, you promise your, your, your wife is like, Hey, do you want to, do you want to do this on Friday? You're like, okay. Yeah, sure. You make plans with your buddy to do shoot pool on Friday. You're going to take shots and shoot some pool, but then your wife is sitting at home, probably crying because you just left her to go have a good time. That'll last two hours. So the integrity is. You need to uphold your end of the marriage. Wow.

Natalie:

Whoa.

Bryan:

You guys are just, so you're saying that you see integrity. Yes. Yeah. And what's the third thing discipline

Natalie:

and not the Spanky spank.

Bryan:

That's a whole different

Ranon:

podcast that was ended years ago. The famed corner corner hated that.

Ehzra:

One of my friends said this and it, like, I was like, wow, that's so true. Our parents punish us because they love us. Right. And they don't punish us because they're being mean, and they're, they're not punishing us because they don't like us. They're punishing us because they want us to veer off into the right track,

Bryan:

to go in the right direction, to go in the right direction. No,

Natalie:

no, that's that, that's the consequences for your choices.

Ehzra:

You can make those choices, but you have consequences along with it. So the discipline, again, we're going to veer off to the kids' side of things. The discipline is that I don't want my child to go off drinking and sneak out of the house and do drugs. Right. So that discipline is important. Like even now I see that why you're disciplining me is because you want me to. Be good. You want me to, you want me to go into the right direction, right? Pursue things that I love now I want to be pressured to do that's cool. Yup.

Ranon:

Good word. I mean, maybe at the moment you may say things you may regret later on and apologize to your parents for that, even though they have no idea what you said, but you're still going to apologize for it because you feel

Natalie:

wrong. That's right. I there's been lots of times.

Bryan:

Brandon I've never said anything in the heat of that. I

Ranon:

have said many things and I have regretted them. Sorry, dad. Generally I regret what I said around five minutes later. I'm like, oh, I never should have said that.

Bryan:

Here's the story about rain. And actually this has been happening he's 16 years old ever since he could write, if he got into trouble. I'd send him to his room. Cause he literally would do something. He was he'd S like spit back, be mad and I have to discipline him. And then like 10 minutes later. I remember he had a remote control car. We'd sneak down the stairs and drop a note that he wrote on the car and then drive it to us as we're sitting in the living room with an apology. I'm so sorry. And then how am I supposed to discipline him now? Because he just sent the remote control car with your apology letter on it. And at 16 years old, he's still, he still feels that way. And you'll still write the letter and be like, Hey, I'm sorry. You're right. I was wrong. And I've always appreciated

Ranon:

that about you words. Can't explain. So maybe let her form what's that it puts it on your pillow. Now he puts it under a pillow, pillow, laundry basket, and under the covers or wherever I can hide it

Bryan:

and Amaris just sobs. That was loud

Natalie:

as hell. Not true,

Ranon:

not true. You're right. Even the dog in there with you.

Bryan:

So here's, here's the next, the next question that I want to ask what is something that you see and this wasn't, we didn't really talk about this one. What's something that you see in our marriage that you just don't like, that you. That you just don't like, and you're never going to take with you your relationship or to

Ranon:

the future inappropriate jokes is what I was just going to say. Okay. No, no that I can live with as, as disgusting. It is as if they're not even dirty jokes.

Ehzra:

The other two, they're fine with it, but yeah, I

Bryan:

just get weirded out. It's hilarious. When I kiss moment public, you're like, oh,

Natalie:

why

Bryan:

stop?

Ehzra:

Stop. Why do you guys fight? I hate to see that because you have such a strong bond and relationship together. So I hate to see you butting heads over the smallest things. Yeah. And you guys are married for 20 years.

Ranon:

You're 40.

Bryan:

Wow. I'm older than that, but thank you.

Ranon:

Oh,

Natalie:

that's not good though. She's

Ranon:

22. I'm in trouble.

Ehzra:

Mum's

Ranon:

22. I believe you stole what I want. And.

Ehzra:

That, it just doesn't make sense. Like I wanted the plant over there, but I didn't want it over there. It's in front of my view for this thing, but I don't care where you want it. So like the

Natalie:

bickering, the bickering and

Ehzra:

the constantly like, cause I've seen you, I'm going to this where the brutal honesty comes in. You pit, you put each other down sometimes. Oh, like, mum's like, Hey, can I do this? No, that's dumb. You've had you haven't said that, but like, ah, I see you sometimes during the day. Again, with the heat of the moment, put mother down. Yeah. I say mother and father a lot. You follow, you put mother down because you don't agree with her decision.

Bryan:

Yeah, that's good. I can take that. That's not wrong.

Ranon:

Or I encourage her backup. That's right.

Bryan:

The encourager.

Ranon:

Come on, mom. It goes both ways.

Bryan:

I have a question I want to ask after for everyone, but

Ranon:

go ahead. I'm basically the same as her. I hate seeing you guys. Like butting heads over the smallest things is in my opinion, quite ridiculous, but that will happen in marriage as nobody is perfect, but you're not wrong, but like, I like that you guys make up, but I hate seeing you guys. Right.

Bryan:

That's good. So

Ranon:

and

Amarys:

cameras. Oh, only mum because I've never seen dad cry

Natalie:

that has that feeling come out every so many

Ranon:

years to

Bryan:

manly load one time for 20,

Ehzra:

it's been seven to be specified mum

Ranon:

cry. Cause it just

Amarys:

breaks me down. Like you guys,

Natalie:

you in

Amarys:

that way, it's just. Stupid. And like, I don't want to see you guys crying a lot because I hurts. Hurt me more than you. This you guys cry.

Ranon:

All right.

Natalie:

That was good. Is that like crying in a movie

Amarys:

or definitely not. He's not crying.

Natalie:

He's not crying in the Dodo. Don't watch

Amarys:

cry when something wrong.

Natalie:

I see.

Bryan:

Obviously at this point, you've seen that we're not perfect in our

Natalie:

marriage. No surprise. Do you,

Bryan:

do you find it, it, it helps you see that we resolve conflict and that this is actually something that we can overcome. Do you think us not being, having a perfect marriage is, is good, is not having a perfect marriage. Like, what's your thought on that? Like just, we're definitely not perfect

Ehzra:

if it's good. There's no variety.

Ranon:

Ooh, that's good. Yeah. Perfect. Everything would be sunshine and daisies all day long. Or you would actually know how to resolve a fight if your parents may, or didn't actually like argue in front of you and they just made it seem like everything's okay. Right. And like made it seem like they're all perfect. Like you wouldn't actually be able to grow up and understand how to resolve these contradicts or resolve the, like an issue or apologize in person or letter, or do any of these things that your parents are there for to teach you if you were just perfect. No,

Bryan:

that's good.

Natalie:

That's good. Amaris. What do you feel that it's important for mom and dad to resolve conflicts in front of you?

Amarys:

Conflict

Ranon:

means

Natalie:

arguments or disagreements. Do you think, do you think that it's important if we talk about our disagreements in front of you and then you can see how we walk through that process? It

Ranon:

I'm not saying this to me.

Ehzra:

Oh cool.

Ranon:

You guys like

Amarys:

evolve into different David that came

Natalie:

out wrong? No, I see what you're saying.

Amarys:

Involvement in different stages of like argument. Right. But also it also kind of hurts me. This you guys are.

Natalie:

What about affection? Do you feel that it's important that you guys see. Dad and mom holding each other and loving on each other. Yes. You think it's

Ranon:

important? I think that if I didn't get my nightly hug for mom, I would probably die

Amarys:

if I don't give my mum. Cause I, yeah, every night I have to give my mom to hugged or I was, cannot fall. I, and also I can't miss the moon new back,

Ranon:

so yes,

Bryan:

we're what we're, we're showing. Did you have something you want to add to that as well? I never

Ranon:

got

Ehzra:

to answer

Ranon:

which

Ehzra:

question the conflict. I never said there'd be no variety and marriage.

Ranon:

Okay.

Natalie:

Do you feel it's important to see mom and dad resolve conflicts?

Ehzra:

Yes, because that advanced me in a person. Yeah, dance is my personality to be like how to problem solve prop, how to troubleshoot

Ranon:

shoot marriage. There you go. Quite the time to think of that one.

Natalie:

What about, do you feel that's important to see your parents affectionate without being cringy,

Ranon:

as you

Ehzra:

heard, like the two hugs and the nightly hug? I can go perfectly fine without. Family

Ranon:

anymore.

Natalie:

Well, I can't, so will be a hug.

Ehzra:

Yeah. I'm doing air quotes right now. The tucking in, right. So I can live perfectly fine without that

Ranon:

means, you know, he's not part

Amarys:

of the family anymore,

Ranon:

but I need that hug.

Ehzra:

So, but mum, mum. So

Ranon:

I'm like, okay, I'm tired. She's like, where

Natalie:

is she?

Amarys:

What happened? You're gone. Does mum

Ranon:

still miss you? She just cries every day. I do miss you,

Ehzra:

but it's good to have that. So you can see what it's actually like to have a healthy, and it's not like, it's not like the movies where everything's fake,

Bryan:

right. The movies don't give you a good indication oftentimes about what relationships are like, what marriage is like, anything that. That's really good. Is there a, I think like we've kind of run through the questions. We've asked a few extra ones and you guys have done a really great

Ranon:

job to add to the affection thing. I think that seeing you guys being affectionate with each other does help see what you guys still do badly love each other, like you did when you're on your honeymoon or when you first got married. I think that's good for us because you guys still do really care about each other and us. Yeah,

Natalie:

absolutely. Yeah, we do.

Bryan:

All right. Well, I mean, honestly, this was really enlightening. You guys, I appreciate the the freedom of just your willingness to speak, even on the tougher subjects, tougher questions like you don't like, but it's

Natalie:

good. We tend to talk from your heart. Cause none of this is scripted

Bryan:

and this isn't, and this is the thing it's not, this is a father's day episode, but this really just shows what it like, if you're listening to. And maybe you don't have any children, maybe your, in the process of adopting, are you looking to have a child or you're just wondering how your husband is going to be like when you have children here. Yeah. You have to know that we screwed it up so many times, take 10. We've asked our children for forgiveness. So many times we've shown our authenticity, our willingness to be genuine with them regularly only because that they say that helps them be a better person. Really? It helps us. It helps us be a better married couple. It helps us be better in a relationship. Having children helps us be better at conflict resolution, a better about how much we fight at the house. How much we fight in general, why we're fighting and working these things through. And to be able to walk that stuff through with kids in the house means you always have always have eyes on you. And so just know that your relationship, if it's in a rough spot, communication-wise, it can be healthy. It can be whole, and it can be something that's absolutely amazing. So have you, you've heard us say before. Do you guys have anything last minute things you want to add before we move, move forward a little

Ranon:

bit held at gunpoint to say this. That's probably why I didn't put on. I don't think I really have anything else to add. Except that if mom didn't have dad, no one would be able to kill her spiders. That's a very

Natalie:

good point. Very, very good point. That's a very good point. I think I think just leaving this on a. Note of how important fathers are and, and healthy fathers are and healthy mothers are in a healthy marriage dynamic because, you know, in our case, there are three people that are watching when we, when we might think that, oh, they can't hear us or they can't see what's going on. Is so

Bryan:

important. So with that being said, Hey, thank you for listening and being a part of this for all of these that are all of you that are going to hear this. Thank you for just enjoying, I hope you enjoyed that little insight into our family and to some of the things that we thought through the personalities of our strange. But as if you have a question or a topic or anything you want to discuss, even if it's a parenting question or anything like that.

Natalie:

Yeah. Because I think like, as we move through our topics like parenting is going

Bryan:

to become yeah, absolutely. So as you heard us say, report, we believe that marriage can be reset, refreshed, recharged, Andrew story.